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		<title>The Celestial Mountains logo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep getting questions about the Celestial Mountains Logo. Some people like it &#8211; &#8220;it&#8217;s simple and easily recognizable&#8221; &#8230; others don&#8217;t &#8211; &#8220;it&#8217;s too complicated&#8221; they say. It is has been suggested to me that a plain white stripe would be better than the more complicated design that we have at the moment. Well, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<div id="attachment_711" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 134px"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/logo.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-711 " title="logo" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/logo.gif" alt=" " width="124" height="86" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">  </p></div>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">I keep getting questions about the Celestial Mountains Logo. Some people like it &#8211; &#8220;it&#8217;s simple and easily recognizable&#8221; &#8230;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">others don&#8217;t &#8211; &#8220;it&#8217;s too complicated&#8221; they say.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">It is has been suggested to me that a plain white stripe would be better than the more complicated design that we have at the moment.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion &#8230;</span></span><span id="more-710"></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">As it happens, this logo wasn&#8217;t exactly our first choice &#8230;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">we obviously thought about a logo and corporate style.</span></span></p>
<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce18.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-714" title="the_ce18" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce18.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="36" /></a><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">One early suggestion, from the person who designed our original (very small) website, involved a photograph of mountain peaks. Although we liked it very much, it looked &#8220;cold&#8221; and appeared cluttered with too much detail which meant that it wasn&#8217;t very clear, unless seen on a large scale. We also wondered if it would &#8220;date&#8221; &#8211; especially as we had chosen to use an Old English Copperplate font for the title.</span></span></p>
<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce151.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-722" title="the_ce15" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce151.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="79" /></a><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce161.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-723" title="the_ce16" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce161.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="84" /></a><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce171.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-721" title="the_ce17" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/the_ce171.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="115" /></a><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">We looked though various catalogues, clipart collections and other sources for inspiration and eventually came up with a number of designs that we quite liked and we handed them to a marketing consultant and his designer.</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">One of the designs was very similar in shape to the existing logo and we quite liked that because it looked like a mountain peak.</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">A second option involved a road heading towards some mountains in the distance.</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">We also thought of trying to combine them in some way into a sort of collage.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Well, the designer set to work and came up of different alternatives &#8211; the present logo being one of them.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">The shape of the logo in the form of a triangle clearly suggests a mountain peak &#8211; especially with the small white copy inserted at the peak &#8211; and he suggested that we keep that. The mass of vibrant red however, appeals to and implies both youth and activity and that wasn&#8217;t exactly who we had in mind as our potential clients.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">He explained that he had chosen the colours, red white and blue, for a number of reasons.</span></span></p>
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<li><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">they are also fairly neutral colours &#8211; and are used on a variety of flags, Britain, the United States, Russia, France, Holland &#8230;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">and so would not be &#8220;off putting&#8221;</span></span></li>
<li><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">the blue represents the sky, the red the earth and the white stripe represents both snow capped peaks and a road.</span></span></li>
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<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">The designer went to outline his thinking behind the &#8220;bent white stripe&#8221; in the middle of the design. He wanted to symbolize a road, with serpentine bends, snaking through the mountains. The fact that it suggested mountain peaks, and also looked like a letter M.</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">made it a powerful motif. The triangle forming an arrowhead was to symbolize direction and movement and, so he said, was inspired from one of our original mottos or slogans: &#8220;We&#8217;ll take you there!&#8221;.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">In fact, quite a few people seem to assume that it is meant to be a letter M, for Mountains, and some even ask &#8220;What happened to the C for Celestial?&#8221;</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">As an aside:</span></span></span></strong></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">During the recent election campaign, Artur, (one of our staff), came into the office and took out his mobile phone. He showed me a photograph he had taken with if of a lamppost not far from the office. &#8220;So what?&#8221;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">I asked. He said, &#8220;Look closely.&#8221; On the lamppost was a number of flyers posted by different parties contesting the election. One of them looked a little familiar.</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">There were the mountain peaks &#8230;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">there were the colours: red, white and blue &#8230;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">yes, there were differences &#8230;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;">but, all the same, it looked familiar.</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Yes, well, it was nothing to do with us &#8230;</span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;">and nobody seems to have made the connection.</span></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was originally included in an email &#8220;postcard&#8221; sent out on July 16th, 2010 &#8211; What planet are you from? Admin: Can I take this opportunity to say: 1. The postcard is a little early this week &#8230; I normally write the email on Friday and &#8220;sleep on it&#8221; over night, before tidying it up [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was originally included in an email &#8220;postcard&#8221; sent  out on July 16th, 2010 &#8211;  <span style="color: #0000ff;">What planet are  you from?<span id="more-354"></span><br />
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<td><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Admin: </strong></span> Can I take  			this opportunity to say:</td>
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<td>The postcard is a little early this week  			&#8230; I normally write the email on Friday and &#8220;sleep on it&#8221; over  			night, before tidying it up and then sending it out on Saturdays.   			This week I am taking the opportunity to accompany a group to Issyk  			Kul, and also to take the kids.  (I am not sure when I&#8217;ll get  			another chance.)</td>
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<td>Not everyone received last week&#8217;s  			postcard.  Sorry.  The reason is that they were rejected  			by the hotmail spam filter &#8230; so those who have hotmail accounts  			did not receive the message.  I have been looking into how to  			solve this problem and hope I have found a solution so I hope  			everyone gets this week&#8217;s.</td>
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<td>When I began sending out the weekly  			postcard, I simply went through my address book and included people  			that I thought might be interested in the events unfolding here &#8230;  			family and friends, clients, (past, present and prospective &#8211; people  			who have made enquiries), and others.  Since then, I have heard  			from some people who have asked to be included in the distribution  			list &#8230; maybe they had seen a copy quoted on the internet, or had  			been passed a copy by a friend or colleague.  No problem, I  			have included them.On the other hand, one person has  			asked to be removed from the list.  Once again, no problem &#8230;  			if you wish to stop receiving the postcards, just drop me a line to  			let me know and I will remove you.</td>
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<td>Feedback is always welcome &#8230; Thank you  			to everyone who has sent me comments so far.  Some people have  			written with questions and comments about what I have written &#8230; or  			suggestions about things that would like to hear more about.   			I&#8217;ll do my best to try and answer them either personally or in  			subsequent postcard.  Not everyone will agree with me and my  			view on what is happening &#8230; but I write about the situation as I  			see it at the time and I accept that it is perfectly possible that I  			am mistaken.</td>
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<td>The postcards are posted on my website: 			<a href="/" target="_blank">ianbek.kg</a>.  As well as  			the regular updates on my take of events and  the current  			situation here in Kyrgyzstan, there are other posts on a variety of  			topics.  This week, for example, there are posts on: the &#8220;annus  			horribilis&#8221; that I have been experiencing this year; my views on  			spam and spam filters, (prompted by what happened to last week&#8217;s  			postcard); an initiative to try and attract Chinese tourists to  			Kyrgyzstan; and some thoughts about competition.I have also started a Twitter feed, @Bishkekpostcard,  			so that people can follow the latest entries.</td>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &#8220;postcards&#8221; is what the website ianbek.kg is all about &#8211; why it was set up as a personal website some years ago, before the days of blogs and social networking sites like Facebook. At that time I had already set up a couple of sites about Kyrgyzstan and our hotel, (The Silk Road Lodge), [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;postcards&#8221; is what the website <a href="/" target="_blank">ianbek.kg</a> is all  about &#8211; why it was set up as a personal website some years ago, before the days  of blogs and social networking sites like Facebook.<span id="more-561"></span></p>
<p>At that time I had already set up a couple of  sites about Kyrgyzstan and our hotel, (The Silk Road Lodge), for our tour  company.   The idea behind this site was going to be different &#8230; it  wasn&#8217;t going to be commercial, trying to attract customers and sell tours but  would be a place for me to present personal reminiscences, observations and  comments.</p>
<p>Why did I think that anyone would be interested  in what I have to say? &#8230; A good question.  All I can say in reply is that  people had told me that they were.  I had been writing messages to family  and friends, former colleagues and clients for many years, keeping them  up-to-date with what I was doing.  Sometimes they were personal message &#8211;  but as I was writing the same thing to a lot of people I would simply write one  general &#8220;newsletter&#8221; which I called &#8220;A Postcard from Bishkek&#8221; and then I would  &#8220;top and tail&#8221; it with personal greetings and specific personal questions and  points.  Apparently these messages were sometimes passed around between  friends, people I didn&#8217;t know &#8230; and I even received occasional messages from  someone asking to be &#8220;put on the mailing list&#8221;.  Honest.</p>
<p>The &#8220;postcards&#8221;, themselves cover a range of topics<br />
&#8230; about my life and experiences as an ex-pat<br />
&#8230; reflections about   education and training<br />
&#8230;  tourism in  Kyrgyzstan, and<br />
&#8230; my experiences  trying  to run a business here in Kyrgyzstan<br />
&#8230; some thoughts about some of the troubled times (or  &#8220;interesting times&#8221;) in the history of  Kyrgyzstan.</p>
<p>Some of the postcards were written specifically  for the site but others contain articles that I have been asked to write for  newspapers or magazines.  Some of them are quite short, (like on a  postcard), but in some of them I do tend to go on a bit &#8230; I can be pretty  verbose.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure that I like the idea of including this page &#8230; but &#8230; in recent weeks I have been advised that we should include in the informational resources that we provide, a set of terms and conditions which outline the rights and responsibilities of both, ourselves and the individual users. Because each [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure that I like the idea of including this page &#8230; but &#8230; in recent weeks I have been advised that we should include in the informational resources that we provide, a set of terms and conditions which outline the rights and responsibilities of both, ourselves and the individual users.<span id="more-374"></span></p>
<p>Because each of the resources are different, and have their own individual features and aspects, we thought about providing separate terms and conditions for each of them, but in the end we decided on a standard set to cover all of them, as outlined below.  Where individual websites, etc., have specific features which require additional or different terms, then these will be provided locally.  For example, on the site gk.kg we simply provide a platform for information provided by different organizations who are responsible for the content and any communication with users and this is dealt with in the agreement between us and outlined separately on the site.</p>
<p>Although this is a &#8220;personal website&#8221; &#8230; in that it reflects my personal experiences, opinions and views &#8211; and I am personably responsible for its contents,  because I am the General Director of the companies, it is difficult to separate it from the others in the suite of resources that we provide, and so we decided to include it in the &#8220;package&#8221;.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Terms and Conditions</strong></span></p>
<p>Access and Use of Informational Resources provided by the Celestial Mountains Tour Company, (including, but not exclusively):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Websites</strong></span>: <a href="http://www.celestialweb.info/" target="_blank">www.celestialweb.info</a>, <a href="http://www.celestial.kg/" target="_blank">www.celestial.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.celestial.com.kg/" target="_blank">www.celestial.com.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.tours.kg/" target="_blank">www.tours.kg</a>,<a href="http://www.silroadlodge.kg/" target="_blank">www.silroadlodge.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.silkroad.com.kg/" target="_blank">www.silkroad.com.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.cmgh.kg/" target="_blank">www.cmgh.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.horses.kg/" target="_blank">www.horses.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.tastes.kg/" target="_blank">www.tastes.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.sound.kg/" target="_blank">www.sound.kg</a>,<a href="http://www.crafts.kg/" target="_blank">www.crafts.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.yurts.kg/" target="_blank">www.yurts.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.gk.kg/" target="_blank">www.gk.kg</a>, <a href="http://linkis.kg" target="_blank">www.links.kg</a>, <a href="http://www.kyrgyzdiary.kg/" target="_blank">www.kyrgyzdiary.kg</a>, <a href="/">ianbek.kg</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>CD</strong></span>: Kyrgyzstan &#8211; an Information Pack; Partner Pack; Panorama discs;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Pdf files</strong></span>: Kyrgyzstan Briefing, Brochures and Leaflets</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Powerpoint slideshows</strong></span>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Printed Materials</strong></span>: Kyrgyzstan an Information Pack, Kyrgyzstan Travel Guide, Brochures and Leaflets</p>
<p>Access to and use of websites and CD materials and other resources provided by The Celestial Mountains Tour Company, (hereafter CMTC), and their partners are provided on the following terms:</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>About the terms</strong></span></p>
<p>1.     By using these resources you agree to be bound by these terms, which shall take effect immediately on your first use. If you do not agree to be bound by all of the following terms please do not access, use and/or contribute to them.</p>
<p>2.     CMTC reserves the right to change these terms and conditions from time to time and although we will publish details of any amendments on the resources, we recommend that you check regularly for subsequent changes. Your continued use of our resources will be considered as acceptance of the updated or amended terms. If, for some reason, you do not agree to the changes, then you should cease using the resources. If there is any conflict between these terms and specific “local” terms appearing elsewhere on of the resources, then the latter shall prevail.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Use of Celestial Mountains Resources</strong></span></p>
<p>3.     You agree to use resources provided by CMTC:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     only for lawful purposes, and</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    in a way that does not infringe the rights of, restrict or inhibit anyone else&#8217;s use and enjoyment of them.  Where, for example, provision is made for interactive “user generated content”, prohibited behaviour includes harassing or causing distress or inconvenience to any person, transmitting obscene or offensive content or disrupting the normal flow of dialogue.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Intellectual Property Rights</strong></span></p>
<p>4.     All copyright, trade marks, design rights, patents and other intellectual property rights (registered and unregistered) in and on the CMTC resources, and all content (including all applications) located on them, are retained by CMTC, individual authors of works, or its licensors (which may include other users).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     You may:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">(i)             make copies for you own individual, non commercial, use</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">(ii)            quote from the material as part of a larger work but in this case we ask that you give a citation to the source</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    You may not</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">(i)             copy, reproduce, republish, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer, download, post, broadcast, transmit, make available to the public, or otherwise use CMTC content in any other way.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">(ii)            adapt, alter or create a derivative work from any of our content except for your own personal, non-commercial use.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">c.     Any other use of our material requires the prior written permission.</p>
<p>5.     The names, images and logos identifying CMTC or third parties and their products and services are subject to copyright, design rights and trade marks. Nothing contained in these terms shall be construed as conferring any licence or right to use any such trade mark, design right or copyright.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>User Generated Content (UGC)</strong></span></p>
<p>6.     If you do not want to grant CMTC permission set out in these terms, then please do not submit your UGC to us.</p>
<p>7.     In order to participate in and contribute to certain facilities you may be required to register with CMTC.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     any personal information supplied to us as part of this registration process and/or any other interaction with us will be collected, stored and used only in accordance with the purpose for which it was provided.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    inappropriate user names, (for example containing vulgar or offensive terms) will be rejected;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">c.     all registrations must include a valid personal email address that you access regularly so that we can contact you if necessary. Accounts registered with someone else&#8217;s email address, or with temporary email addresses may be closed without notice.</p>
<p>d.    we may require users to re-validate their account if we believe they have been using an invalid email address.</p>
<p>8.     By sharing any UGC, (including any text, photographs, graphics, video or audio), with CMTC you agree to grant to us, free of charge, permission to use the material in any way it wants (including modifying and adapting it for operational and editorial reasons).  In certain circumstance we may also share your contribution with trusted third parties.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     Copyright in your contribution will remain with you, so you can continue to use the material in any way including allowing others to use it.</p>
<p>9.     In order that CMTC can use your contribution, you confirm:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     that it is your own original work,</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    that it is not defamatory and does not infringe any laws,</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">c.     that you have the right to give us permission to use it for the purposes specified above, and</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">d.    that you have the consent of anyone who is identifiable in your contribution or the consent of their parent/guardian if they are under 16.</p>
<p>10.  We will normally show your name with your contribution, (unless you specifically request otherwise),    but for operational reasons this may not always be possible.</p>
<p>11.  We may need to contact you for administrative or verification purposes in relation to your contribution, or in relation to particular projects.</p>
<p>12.   Contributions containing languages other than English may be translated or removed.</p>
<p>13.  UGC posts:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     must be civil (constructive and polite) and tasteful;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    must not be disruptive, offensive, abusive, mean-spirited or contributed with the intention of causing trouble;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">c.     must not contain unlawful or objectionable content, (unlawful, harassing, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, racially offensive or otherwise objectionable material);</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">d.    must not constitute spamming, (including the submission of the same or very similar contributions many times);</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">e.     must not contain advertising or promotion of goods or services;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">f.     should be “on-topic”</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">g.    must not involve impersonation of someone else;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">h.     should not endanger yourself or others, take any unnecessary risks or break any laws when creating content you may share with us.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">1.     We advise that you never reveal any personal information about yourself or anyone else (for example: telephone number, postal address, home address or email address or any other details that would allow you to be personally identified).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">2.     If you&#8217;re under 16:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;">a.     You should obtain permission from your parent or guardian before submitting any UGC to CMTC.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;">b.    Never reveal any personal information about yourself or anyone else (for example, school, telephone number, your full name, home address or email address).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Breaches these terms and conditions</strong>:</span></p>
<p>14.  If you fail to abide by these Terms and Conditions (and/or any “local” variations in respect of a specific resource),  we will send you an email which informs you why your contribution has been refused or edited. This email will also include a warning that continuing to break the rules may result in action being taken against your registered account or accounts.</p>
<p>15.  This action may include any UGC posted by you being checked before being allowed to go on to a site, or a temporary or permanent suspension of your ability to participate in any or all of our sites.</p>
<p>16.  We reserve the right to delete any UGC, or take action against any registration, at any time, for any reason.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Disclaimers and Limitation of Liability</strong></span></p>
<p>17.  CMTC is not responsible for</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     any content posted by members of the public on any of our websites or</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    for the availability or content of any third party sites that are accessible links from them.</p>
<p>18.  Any link to third party websites from any of our resources does not amount to an endorsement of that site and any use of that site by you is at your own risk.</p>
<p>19.  All content, including the information, names, images, pictures, logos and icons, is provided on an &#8220;AS IS&#8221; and &#8220;AS AVAILABLE&#8221; basis.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     To the extent permitted by law, CMTC excludes all representations and warranties (whether express or implied by law), including the implied warranties of satisfactory quality, fitness for a particular purpose, non-infringement, compatibility, security and accuracy.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    CMTC does not guarantee the timeliness, completeness or performance of the websites or any of the content.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">c.     While we try to ensure that all content provided by us is correct at the time of publication no responsibility is accepted by or on behalf of CMTC for any errors, omissions or inaccurate content on the websites and in other resources.</p>
<p>20.   Nothing in these terms limits or excludes CMTC’s liability for death or personal injury caused by its proven negligence. Subject to the previous sentence, CMTC shall not be liable for any of the following losses or damage (whether such damage or losses were foreseen, foreseeable, known or otherwise):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">a.     loss of data;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">b.    loss of revenue or anticipated profits;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">c.     loss of business;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">d.    loss of opportunity;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">e.     loss of goodwill or injury to reputation;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">f.     losses suffered by third parties; or</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">g.    any indirect, consequential, special or exemplary damages arising from the use of the resources regardless of the form of action.</p>
<p>21.  CMTC does not warrant that functions available on its websites and other resources will be uninterrupted or error free, that defects will be corrected, or that websites and other resources, including the server that hosts the websites are free of viruses or bugs. You acknowledge that it is your responsibility to implement sufficient procedures and virus checks (including anti-virus and other security checks) to satisfy your particular requirements for the accuracy of data input and output.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>General</strong></span></p>
<p>22.   If any of these terms are determined to be illegal, invalid or otherwise unenforceable by reason of the laws of any state or country in which these terms are intended to be effective, then to the extent and within the jurisdiction in which that term is illegal, invalid or unenforceable, it shall be severed and deleted from these terms and the remaining terms shall survive and continue to be binding and enforceable.</p>
<p>23.   The failure of, or delay by, CMTC to exercise or enforce any right in these terms does not waive the right CMTC to enforce that right.</p>
<p>24.  These terms shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the legislation of the Kyrgyz Republic which shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any disputes.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Contact Details:</strong></span></p>
<p>The Celestial Mountains Tour Company<br />
Kievskaya 131-2,<br />
Bishkek<br />
720001<br />
Kyrgyz Republic</p>
<p><a href="mailto:celest@infotel.kg">ce</a><a href="mailto:celest@infotel.kg">lest@infotel.kg</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few years ago I was asked by an acquaintance who was lecturing at one of the local Universities, if I would appear as a guest speaker at one of his classes.  He was in charge of a course on Business Ethics.  Although a certain amount of the discussion touched upon Bribery and Corruption, there [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago I was asked by an acquaintance who was lecturing at one of  the local Universities, if I would appear as a guest speaker at one of his  classes.  He was in charge of a course on Business Ethics.  Although a  certain amount of the discussion touched upon Bribery and Corruption, there were  questions and discussion on a wide variety of topics.  It is easy to think  of Business Ethics as being concerned primarily with Corruption and the  prevalence of Bribery, but the topic goes much further and touches on the very  way in which people conduct their business affairs.<span id="more-469"></span></p>
<p>Running a business is not a simple matter, as anyone who has run a business  will tell you.  It is a question of fulfilling responsibilities and those  responsibilities are manifold &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Responsibility to the client</strong>:</p>
<p>Now, the Celestial Mountains companies are commercial enterprises – and that  means we obviously aim to make a profit.  Apart from trying to recoup their  investment, the investors hope to earn some income from the enterprises and  benefit from dividends.  That does not mean, however, that “the bottom line” is  “all important”.</p>
<p>Most business, including ours, is based on the principle of striking a  bargain, or agreement.  It is possible to look on an agreement as simply a  commercial transaction.  Any transaction involves a number of participants but  it can be thought of as a contract between just two parties:</p>
<ul>
<li>The client, (consumer, tourist), and</li>
<li>The supplier (tour company)</li>
</ul>
<p>A definition of a &#8220;contract&#8221; might be: “an agreement enforceable in law”.  In  Kyrgyzstan there are certain problems here – a contract has to be signed and  stamped by a person duly authorized to do so … but in the case of arranging a  tour, it is not always possible to obtain a signed and stamped contract –  especially where discussions and negotiations have taken place by email  correspondence.</p>
<p>Details may very from country to country, from legal system to legal system,  but in general the following features are present:</p>
<ul>
<li>Identification of the parties: e.g. names, contact details (address,    telephone numbers) and license and registration numbers, (if any) – it is    important to be sure that the two parties are competent to make the agreement;</li>
<li>The subject of the contract: e.g. the provision of tour services;</li>
<li>Details of the agreement: e.g. dates, specific details about goods and/or    services, price, special conditions …;</li>
<li>The rights and obligations of the parties: e.g. timescales, payment    details, penalties …;</li>
<li>Provisions for the resolution of disputes: e.g. a system of arbitration;</li>
<li>Administrative issues: what happens in the case of force majeur    circumstances, the language of the agreement, the choice of legal system or    jurisdiction for enforcing the agreement, the number of copies, and any other    conditions …;</li>
<li>Signatures signifying the agreement of the parties (stamped where    appropriate), together with the date and place where the agreement was    concluded.</li>
</ul>
<p>In our discussions with clients – often conducted by email – the  correspondence forms part of the agreement, the contract.   We identify  ourselves – that is a matter of public record – and the client identifies  themselves.  We ask for passport details – but that is not usually for the  contract, it is so that we can fulfill the other requirements concerning visas,  registration and so forth, and thereby meet our legal obligations under Kyrgyz  law.  The subject of the agreement (provision of tour services), the details of  the services requested and to be delivered, the price, method of payment and  special considerations are contained in the body of the communications.</p>
<p>It should be noted that a contract is a double edged sword.  As well as our  agreeing to certain certain obligations and responsibilities – the client also  undertakes some.  The main obligation may be a question of payment – especially  in commercial terms.  (Under Kyrgyz law they also have an obligation to carry  insurance cover to meet the cost of medical expenses.)  In addition, we also ask  the client to be a responsible tourist.  In our information Pack CD there are a  number of Travellers’ Codes.  Each tour is different and not all aspects of the  travellers’ codes are relevant to every tour … but we also ask the client to  respect the environment and culture that they have to see.</p>
<p>It is often said that: “<strong>The client is always right</strong>”.  <a href="file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Jan/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ianbek/the_customer_is_not_always_right____.htm">We don’t believe this</a>.   We DO believe, however, that: “T<strong>he client has rights</strong>”.  The first of  these is to receive the goods and services as agreed and for which they have  paid.  Those goods and services should be commensurate with the price.  The  client has a number of legal rights as a consumer.  In addition, they have the  right to a quality of service; to be understood (for example if they are tired  or worried); to be safe; to respect; to receive information and have questions  answered; to have their comments and complaints considered; …</p>
<p>Likewise, when entering into an agreement, we not only accept  responsibilities and obligations – we also have rights.  The obvious one is for  to be paid, in full and on time.  We also have the right for our other  obligations before the Kyrgyz government (e.g. concerning the registration of  tourists) and to our partners and service providers to be respected.</p>
<p>Of course, there is always the possibility that something will occur which  makes it impossible for us to deliver the agreed service.  In this case we  reserve the right to make alternative arrangements – wherever possible we will  do this in consultation with the client.</p>
<p>This two-sided “contractual” view, although important, is perhaps too simple  … Tourism is a particular business with specific aspects which mark it out as  different from other types of commercial activity.  For example:</p>
<ul>
<li>The tourist buys a product “unseen” &#8211; they pay before they receive the    goods and services and cannot try it out beforehand;</li>
<li>The tour company often sells goods and services of others, (“service    providers”, “facilitators”), and has to enter into contracts or arrangements    with them – over whom they have no control;</li>
</ul>
<p>We take our responsibilities to the client very seriously.  Apart from  remembering the “Golden Rule” … “Do unto others as you would have them do unto  you” … we think it is important that we have the client’s trust.  So, we won’t  lie to a client, and we won’t make promises that we are not certain that we can  fulfill.  We will point out potential problems – the important word is  “potential”, they may arise, but they may not … In some cases this can all work  to our disadvantage.  Still, we think it is right to do so.</p>
<p><strong>Responsibilities to others</strong>:</p>
<p>When entering into an agreement with a client we recognize that we enter into  certain responsibilities towards the client.  The companies also have  responsibilities to others.  A more complete list might be:</p>
<ul>
<li>The <strong>clients</strong>: with whom we have a “contractual” agreement;</li>
<li>Our <strong>suppliers</strong>: the people from whom we purchase goods and services    and rely upon us, and our clients, (at least in part) for their livelihood;</li>
<li>Our <strong>employees</strong>: who rely on the company for their livelihood;</li>
<li>The <strong>government</strong>: for example to pay our taxes and comply with legal    requirements;</li>
<li>The <strong>wider community</strong>:  we are part of a wider community &#8211; and we try    to play our part in that wider community in the form of supporting local    businesses and good causes;</li>
<li>The <strong>Tourism Industry</strong>: preserving the good name and reputation of    the country and the industry;</li>
<li>Our <strong>investors</strong>: who have placed their trust in us;</li>
</ul>
<p>Of course making a profit is important – without it the companies would not  exist, with all that this would entail for our employees, local businesses,  state and local budgets, etc.  However, this is not the end of the story.</p>
<p>In our activities we try to remember that, in addition to our  responsibilities to the client, we also recognize that there is a need to be  responsible in a wider sense – for example, there is a need to respect the  environment, the local culture.  These responsibilities may not have a  contractual nature, but they are still important.</p>
<p>For example, it is possible that, if we act irresponsibly, then we would be  damaging the very thing that we are trying to “sell”: the landscape and natural  environment; the traditions and cultures of the local people and so forth – and  in doing so we would be damaging the future development and prosperity of both  ourselves and the community.  This is one of the reasons we do not undertake  Hunting expeditions.</p>
<p>We want to see the country and the industry develop.  We try hard to support  various initiatives, both within the country and within the industry.  Where  possible we prefer to purchase goods produced locally, we take an active part in  supporting good causes, we participate in discussions involving the development  of civil society and we are active in a number of local associations.</p>
<p>In answer to the client who said – “the trouble with choosing Celestial  Mountains is that the money leaves the country”, we reply that the vast majority  of the money actually remains in the country … either in payment for goods and  services, taxes, or further re-investment.</p>
<p>In answer to the person who expressed the view that our attitude towards  “Corporate Social Responsibility” (CSR) was “a strange way to business” … we  reply that it is a good thing to do, in itself – and that there is also good  economic sense to this, as well.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there two companies: The Celestial Mountains Tour Company and the Celestial Mountains Guest House (Naryn). Both Were ESTABLISHED in 1997 and Registered under Kyrgyz Law AS Kyrgyz companies. Although They Are, Actually, two separate companies &#8211; They HAD the Same three investors . One Came to Kyrgyzstan at about the time of Independence and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Are there two companies: The Celestial Mountains Tour Company and the Celestial Mountains Guest House (Naryn).</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Both Were ESTABLISHED in 1997 and Registered under Kyrgyz Law AS Kyrgyz companies.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Although They Are, Actually, two separate companies &#8211; They HAD the Same three investors .</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">One Came to Kyrgyzstan at about the time of Independence and Immediately fell in Love with the Country, ITS people and culture.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">He Has Married Since a Kyrgyz woman, Started a family and is now living in Australia.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">The Second is based in the UK .</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">I originally Came to Bishkek to help to Open an Office &#8211; and just Stayed.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">I am now based in Bishkek and run the two companies.</span></span></span></span></span></span><img title="Далее..." src="/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-383"></span><br />
<a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/flags.jpg"><img class="alignright" title="flags" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/flags.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="267" /></a><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">The Tour Company is based in the Capital, Bishkek, and WAS ESTABLISHED to offer tours and Other Services to Travellers.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">The tours Would Cover the Regions of Kyrgyzstan and Throughout the Region of Central Asia.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">At First, the Company Chose to specialize in Motor tours .</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">AS Part of Our Strategy, a number of Hotels and guesthouses Were Planned Throughout the Kyrgyz Republic, Offering comfortable accommodation equipped to Western style and Standards.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">The original WAS Plan to establish Tour itineraries Travelling Between Them, and EXPLORING the Areas around Them.</span></span></span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">However, events Somewhat Differently Developed and hence These Plans Have Yet to be Fully Implemented.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">The guesthouse in Naryn WAS the First of These.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Naryn Chosen WAS AS the site for the First Investment Because IT Has an Important place on the Road to the Torugart Pass &#8211; Only the border crossing to China then AVAILABLE for Passenger traffic.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">A block of Four apartments was purchased and converted into a small guesthouse with 12 Guest Rooms, clean and modern western style toilets and showers.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">In Summer a number of yurts Are Also Provided.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Although IT WAS originally Intended to offer accommodation for tourists Travelling to, or from, Torugart &#8211; a growing number of travellers are spending more time in the Naryn region visiting places like Ece Naryn, Salkyntor, Tash Rabat, At Bashi, Son Kul, and Kochkor, and guests have also included a large number of businessmen and visiting dignitaries.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Drawing upon our experiences in Naryn we then planned and built a new hotel in the centre of Bishkek &#8211; The Silk Road Lodge &#8211; which opened in August 2000.</span></span></span> <span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">It Quickly ESTABLISHED AS Itself a Small, Friendly, hotel &#8211; popular with tourists, Businessmen, Consultants and visiting dignitaries alike.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Although they are separate companies with different staffs, they cooperate closely with each other and seek to maintain the same commitment to levels of service.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; font-size: 100%; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; display: inline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">I serve as the General Director of both companies, and although the different companies have different staffs &#8211; they cooperate closely with each other and seek to maintain the same commitment to levels of service.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kyrgyzstan (or The Kyrgyz Republic, to give the country its official name) is in the very middle of the Eurasian continent, bordering China (to the east), Kazakhstan (to the north and west), Uzbekistan (to the south and west), and Tajikistan (to the south west and south). (Actually, the geographical center of the Asian continent lies [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KR-ADM-ENG200.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-16" title="KR ADM ENG200" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KR-ADM-ENG200.jpg" alt="Map of Kyrgyzstan showing the administrative regions, (oblasts)" width="200" height="112" /></a>Kyrgyzstan (or The Kyrgyz Republic, to give the country its official name) is in the very middle of the Eurasian continent, bordering China (to the east), Kazakhstan (to the north and west), Uzbekistan (to the south and west), and Tajikistan (to the south west and south).</p>
<p>(Actually, the geographical center of the Asian continent lies about 1000 kilometres further north – but the term Central Asia is widely used for this region – and if you look at a map of the two continents together Kyrgyzstan does lie more or less in the center.)<span id="more-359"></span></p>
<p>It is a small, landlocked, mountainous country occupying just less than 200,000 square kilometres – about the area of Portugal, Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands put together, or a little less than the UK.</p>
<p>The northern most part is at the same latitude as Rome, but because it is landlocked its winters are much colder (and the height above sea level makes many parts even colder &#8211; our guest house in Naryn fairly often experiences temperatures of -35 degrees C in winter). Summers are both drier and hotter (45 degrees C is not unusual and 50 degrees C was recorded in 1998 near Bishkek).</p>
<p>Ninety three percent of the surface area is over 1500 meters in height – and therefore counts as mountainous, although not of it would recognizable peaks there being numerous plateaus and wide intermountain valleys &#8211; and 41% is over 3000 meters high.</p>
<p>The greatest natural feature is the Tien-Shan mountains (in Kyrgyz “Tenir-Too”) running through the country from the northeast to the southwest.</p>
<p>The second most famous feature is Lake Issyk-Kul (which is Kyrgyz for “warm lake”). It lies 1,600 meters above sea level and is 668 meters deep in places. It never freezes, which is the reason it was given its name, the water isn&#8217;t that warm. The lake lies in a basin surrounded by high mountains.</p>
<p>It is not far by road (about 3 hours) from the second largest lake in Kyrgyzstan, which lies at 3000 meters &#8211; Lake Son Kul &#8211; a remote but beautiful wildlife sanctuary.</p>
<p>The river Naryn runs from north east to south west joining with the Kara-Darya to form a river which even in antiquity was called the Syr-Darya and which runs from Kyrgyzstan out into the Ferghana (Fergana) valley and on into the Aral Sea (though it is mainly diverted or exhausted before then). This is the second largest river in central Asia after the Amu-Darya. It is possible to visit its source, above the city of Naryn.</p>
<p>The Kyrgyz are reckoned to be one of the oldest distinct nationalities and are mentioned in old Chinese chronicles. They were basically a pastoral, nomadic people – traveling from jailoo (a high mountain pasture, the lower pastures are called kyshtoo) to jailoo with their flocks. For a long time they were confused with the Kazakhs – who were called Khirghiz, whilst the Kyrgyz themselves were called Kara Kyrgyz. It is said that the two nations were closely related – but that the Kyrgyz were nomads which traveled from place to place vertically in the mountains, whilst the Kazakhs traveled from place to place horizontally on the steppes. Both nationalities were renowned warriors.</p>
<p>Unlike its neighbours Uzbekistan and China, Kyrgyzstan has little evidence of its noble and ancient history which has survived.</p>
<p>The country has seen many civilizations and empires rise and fall: The Saks, the Monguls … the Russian and the Soviet Union. Names such as Alexander the Great, Marco Polo, Ghengis Khan, Tamerlain, Babur, … are all associated with the region. The connection is stronger in some cases than in others. We are not quite sure exactly how far North Alexander the Great reached, but it is thought by some that conquered the Chui valley and outsed the the existing ruler &#8211; Prince Shu – and made it to Issyk Kul where he left hostages, (mainly noble families from Iran) in a settlement on the Southern shore which later became Barskoon. As far as we know Marco Polo never came further north than Kashgar having traveled through modern-day Afghanistan. Ghengis Khan and his horde of Mongol warriors did travel through the region – sacking town and cities which defied him – but sparing others like Balasugan which opened their gates to his army. One of his wives is reputed to be buried on the “Ghengis Khan Highway” – a track high in the mountains in the Talas region. Tamerlain was born and grew up and based his empire on the Uzbek city of Samarkand – but he came through the territory of Kyrgyzstan on his campaigns against the Chinese and there are several stories relating to him including a few archaeological sites. Babur – who founded the Moghul Raj in India was born in Andijan and grew up in nearby Osh.</p>
<p>Although the Kyrgyz, themselves, at one time had a large empire, they fell into a decline and were subject peoples of a range of empires over the centuries.</p>
<p>Some cities, such as Osh, (which claims a 3000 year history of continuous human settlement), may have a long history – but only isolated remains of man’s early settlements in the region can be seen, and most of the great cities of the past are now little more than archaeological sitites. It is possible to get a feel of the past at such places as Burana, near Tokmak, The Manas Gumbez (mausoleum), near Talas, The Uzgen complex, and the Tash Rabat caravanserai, in the Naryn province on the road to Torugart and the Chinese border.</p>
<p>At the end of the 19th century they fell under the influence of the Russian Empire as it moved to colonize the Eastern hinterland of the continent. When the Russian Empire gave way to the Soviet Union, Kyrgyzstan became part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It declared Independence from the USSR in 1991.</p>
<p>During the most part of the Soviet period, it was closed to foreign visitors. Special permits were needed to travel here and foreigners were extremely rare.</p>
<p>Since Independence the country has opened up and many new and interesting destinations have become accessible to Westerners.</p>
<p>The country is a Presidential democracy with a single chamber parliament (the Jogorku Kenesh).The economy is relatively weak – mainly because the domestic market is small, the great distances to foreign markets for exports and the influence of the mountains in breaking the country into small, remote, distinct geographic units. Since independence it has followed a path of economic and political reform.</p>
<p>If you want to know more about Kyrgyzstan &#8230; trying visiting our website: <a href="http://www.celestial.com.kg" target="_blank">www.celestial.com.kg</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes, when I write a postcard, it strikes me that some of things I refer to might be surprising, or cause confusion, or warrant further explanation. For example, one of the early postcards, (A word of advice &#8230;), is about mobile telephones and I thought it might be useful to explain the phenomenal market penetration [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, when I write a postcard, it strikes me that  some of things I refer to might be surprising, or cause confusion, or warrant  further explanation.<span id="more-350"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>For example, one of the early postcards, (<span style="color: #0000ff;">A  	word of advice &#8230;</span>), is about mobile telephones and I thought it might  	be useful to explain the phenomenal market penetration that mobile phone  	operators have managed to achieve in what is basically a relatively poor  	country.</p>
<p>In another, (<span style="color: #0000ff;">Sorry,  	but we don&#8217;t want your mone</span>y), I refer to the problems of trying to buy  	goods on the internet &#8230; and as one of the things I wanted to buy was a  	Kyrgyz National team Rugby shirt, it might be a surprise to the reader to  	hear that there is a Kyrgyz national rugby team &#8230;so I thought it might be  	a good idea to explain about Rugby in the republic.</p>
<p>Similarly, when I wrote about visits to the 	<span style="color: #0000ff;">Botanical Gardens</span>, 	<span style="color: #0000ff;">The Gold Fund</span> in the Historical Museum, a  	trip to the local<span style="color: #0000ff;"> Golf Club</span> or one of  	the nearby  	<span style="color: #0000ff;">Ski bases</span>, I thought it might be useful  	to add some information about these topics.</p></blockquote>
<p>Including some additional information in the postcard  itself, however, not only makes the pages even longer than they already are, it  is also difficult to decide where and how to add it without distracting the  reader&#8217;s attention and breaking up the flow of the main page .</p>
<p>In a way  this additional information resemble footnotes in a book &#8230; they carry supplementary information,  (perhaps a lengthy explanation about a particular point, or a citation referring  to the source of the quotation or detailed point &#8230;), which is not essential to  main text.  Although it would be possible to add the information at  the bottom of the page, as in a footnote, but it still makes the page quite  long, however, in some of the postcards, (especially in the earlier ones, or  where it is just a small aside which I could fit easily into the text),  I put it into &#8220;boxes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Why &#8220;Postcard from Bishkek&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a creature of habit. One of my routines back in the UK was, every Sunday to take the weekly washing that had been put into the washing machine and do the ironing listening to Radio Four &#8230; the Brit&#8217;s reading this will understand what that means &#8230; it&#8217;s a Talk Radio station run by the [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a creature of habit.</p>
<p>One  of my routines  back in the UK was,  every Sunday to take the weekly washing  that had been put into the washing machine and do the ironing listening to Radio  Four &#8230; the Brit&#8217;s reading this will understand what that means &#8230; it&#8217;s a Talk  Radio station run by the BBC.  There was a lot of ironing to do, and I  hated doing it, (but it was a &#8220;necessary chore&#8221;), and so it used to take me a  long time to get through it all.  I would listen to the news, a discussion  programme, the Sunday service, the weekly omnibus of the Archers (the world&#8217;s  longest continuously running radio soap opera &#8220;about country folk&#8221; in a mythical  English village which was supposed to be modelled on one near where I grew up)  and there was Alistair Cooke&#8217;s &#8220;<strong>Letter from America</strong>&#8221; &#8211; another long running  programme &#8230; .<span id="more-344"></span></p>
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<td width="699">Alistair Cook began broadcasting his &#8220;&#8221; Letter    from America&#8221; in 1946.  He was a journalist working as a correspondent    for the Manchester Guardian and the BBC.  Originally the programme was    scheduled to run on the British Home Service, (the forerunner of Radio Four),    and around the world on the BBC&#8217;s World Service, for just a 13 week season &#8230;    but it finally came off the air only shortly before his death in 2004, by    which time it had become the world&#8217;s longest running speech programme.Although he would have a script of sorts, it    always seemed as if he was simply rambling &#8230; taking his listeners through a    maze of thoughts and ideas, but always ending promptly after his 15 minutes    were up with a wry comment that summed up his theme like his famous &#8220;&#8230; and    the rest is now history&#8221; on the resignation of Richard Nixon.</p>
<p>The programme established itself as a favourite amongst many    English speaking people throughout the world &#8211; even amongst those who    disagreed with him and, sometimes, disagreed with his observations and    conclusions about America, its people, history and culture.  As a commentator,    however, he provided an insight into all things American with reports on    global and domestic affairs, as well as individual incidents and    impressions.  A selection of his articles can still be found on the internet    &#8230; at <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/"> www.bbc.co.uk</a> &#8230; and several    collections of his talks have been published as books.</td>
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<p>I was a great fan of the  programme, and when I first came to Kyrgyzstan it was one of the things that I  missed &#8230; it was difficult to pick up the World Service here at that time &#8230; I  remember sitting over a shortwave radio shortly after I arrived, trying to  listen to a crackling broadcast that faded in and out.  You can imagine how  pleased I was when I discovered that the BBC were publishing the text of his  weekly talks on their internet site.  So, I began a new routine &#8230; every  Tuesday morning I would log onto the internet and read his latest missive,  before downloading and going through the emails.   I suppose these days it would have been a podcast and I could have downloaded  the programme and listened to his dulcet tones on an i-pod.</p>
<p>When I decided to start  my own personal website, ianbek.com, I had to decide what to call it.  I  considered several contenders &#8230; &#8220;Mini sagas&#8221; was a possibility &#8230; although  the word is normally associated with the Vikings, (the word has an Icelandic  origin), they were tales of heroic deeds done in days long ago and for centuries  Kyrgyz culture was based on an oral tradition with several epic poems,  (including the world&#8217;s longest epic poem, Manas).  However, the requirement  for a mini-saga to consist of exactly fifty words was going to be a definite  problem.  There was no way I felt I was going to be able to keep to that  word limit.</p>
<p>It occurred  to me that it might be nice to model  it on Alistair Cooke and   do a similar «Letter  from Bishkek» &#8230; I hoped  that I could emulate him and pass on some interesting insights into a foreign  and interesting society, culture, and community &#8230; and I recognized that, just  like Alistair Cooke, I also  tend to &#8221;know  my own mind&#8221; and can be somewhat opinionated  (…  and   maybe,  someday.  this  will get me into trouble).    However, I still felt that this was a bit  presumptuous of me, because I didn&#8217;t  think that I had  the  experience, wisdom or ability of Alistair Cooke - and I wasn&#8217;t  sure  that I had   the stamina  to turn in a regular weekly column as he did  … but, as a former schoolteacher with an inborn tendency to educate, elucidate  and explain, I  decided to give it a go and, in deference to the great man, I decided to name  my efforts as a more modest &#8220;postcard&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s how the &#8220;<strong>Postcard from  Bishkek</strong>&#8221; was born.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first part of the name is easy to explain &#8230; my name is Ian. So, why &#8220;bek&#8221;? I suppose I could have chose ianclaytor.com but it seemed a bit longwinded and I wanted a name that would reflect the fact that I was here in Central Asia. So what were the alternatives? Some of my (Russian) friends call [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first part of the name is easy to explain &#8230; my name  is Ian.</p>
<p>So, why &#8220;bek&#8221;?<span id="more-340"></span></p>
<p>I suppose I could have chose ianclaytor.com but it seemed a  bit longwinded and I wanted a name that would reflect the fact that I was here  in Central Asia.</p>
<p>So what were the alternatives?</p>
<p>Some of my (Russian) friends call me Ian Robertovich because  my father&#8217;s name was Robert.  In Russian everyone has three names:</p>
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<li>a <strong>Given</strong> name &#8211; which, when I grew up, was always    referred to as a &#8220;Christian&#8221; name, (such as Ian)</li>
<li>a <strong>Patronymic</strong> &#8211; taken from    their father&#8217;s name &#8230; for men it ends in &#8220;vich&#8221;, (such as Robertovich), and    for women in &#8220;vna&#8221;, (such as Ivanovna)</li>
<li>a <strong>Family</strong> name &#8211; or &#8220;surname&#8221;, (such as Claytor)</li>
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<p>Sometimes this results in interesting situations like Vladimir  Vladimirovich Putin &#8230;  It is very rare for someone to be addressed just  by their given name, (only close friends and family use just the given name), or  by the given name and the family name.  Although many people now call me  Ian Claytor, I still meet locals who can&#8217;t call me that and insist on using &#8220;Mister Ian&#8221; or &#8220;Mister Ian Claytor&#8221;, (or worse still &#8220;Sir Ian&#8221; &#8211; I  haven&#8217;t yet been knighted, nor am I ever likely to be!).  The polite  form of address is to use the given name followed by  the patronymic, so Vladimir Putin would be referred to  or addressed as Vladimir Vladimirovich, and I would be Ian  Robertovich.</p>
<p>However, ianrobertovich.com also didn&#8217;t fit the bill and,  anyway, we don&#8217;t use patronymics in English.</p>
<p>There is also a tradition of giving people  nicknames, or diminutives &#8230; so, for example, Alexander becomes Sasha; Vladimir  becomes Volodia or Vova; Mikhail becomes Misha; Constantine becomes Costya;  Nikolai becomes Kolya and Georgiy becomes Gosha.  Of course, as Ian is a  foreign name there isn&#8217;t an equivalent &#8211; although Ivan, (the Russian equivalent  of Ian and John), becomes Vanya.   Within the family, or close circle  of friends, names are turned into terms of endearment by adding endings like  &#8220;-ka&#8221; (as in Danka or Romka) or &#8220;-chik&#8221; (Vanchik or Romchik) &#8230; but, for some  reason I wasn&#8217;t too keen on ianchik.com as a name.</p>
<p>Now, &#8220;bek&#8221; is often added to men&#8217;s names here in Central Asia,  so you have examples like Askarbek or Kurmanbek &#8230; or Ianbek.  It could  just as easily have been ianbaike.com because baike is  another term added to names here, but baikie is a term of respect reserved for  elders and this seemed presumptuous.</p>
<p>So in the end, ianbek.com was the  chosen name for the site.</p>
<p>It is short, identifies itself with me as an individual and it  also has a taste of &#8221;Central Asia.&#8221;</p>
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